Last update for the year! 12/28/2011
I've been quite slack over the past few months with keeping this informed. So just before we roll over to 2012 I thought I'd drop a few lines. The big news is I finally meet the infamous Old McDonald and owner of Lake Alice for those who don't take the time to read my site properly, it appeared McDonald already knew who I was by name so that was awfully flattering. Although when I remarked he is probably a regular on the website he very much choose to deny this. McDonald brought Lake Alice in December 2008 for 2.5 Million I believe it was, his first bid back in 2006 for just under 1 million dollars was out bid. I have learnt he is a tight man when it comes to money. So the Property Brokers website stated that the Admin block and cottage etc has finally sold, I know that Old McDonald wanted around $200,000 for it. The buildings, Villas are still coming down, roofs off and insides its pretty much a empty shell inside. The Maximum has been blown up to give them what looks like access to the courts/ middle of the building and the old swimming pool has gone (so theres no pools out there anymore) If anyone has a problem with my spelling or grammar then either make your own website or correct it yourself and email me. I have a life I can't maintain every inch of this website. Be thankful it's even still online :D in 2012 where going to aim for a forum which will help past patients interact with each other, your welcome to give me feedback on this.. Before I sign off quick holla to Ed Hills and Jim, keep it real guys and see you both next year! Seasons greetings and we'll see you in 2012, Nathan.. Add Comment June/July's blog 06/11/2011
Photos from over the past fortnight of the condition of the Villas, more info soon! Thanks to Nathan. March-Aprils Blog 03/08/2011
This month we have any exciting photo update with pictures from January, thanks to Paul N. While it seems the Maximum is in destruction probably due to the Army they are the past offenders. The rest of the buildings are slowly coming down. Old Mcdonald is a cheap old coot and is trying to selvage whatever he can. The Admin block and caretaker house is still on the market, clearly still seldom interest. I wanted to do two parts to this blog, as I managed to obtain photos of a ECT machine that was brought at a Palmerston North hospital auction few years back now. This machine is believed to have been used at Lake Alice, it has a sticker remaining on it saying 'V6' Villa 6. The ECT machine was also used in the early 2000's for a TVNZ documentary on Lake Alice. Check out the photos, Our thoughts are with the people of Christchurch in this terrible time, again. Another blog down! Nathan, January-February's blog 02/14/2011
I thought I would make the blog entries second monthly so I don't run out of things to write about and it's a better way to keep the website fresh. Maximum Destruction, The Maximum unit is looking like a bomb site the word is that the Army have been let through there to do as they please, I guess thats one way for Old Mcdonald to save money on knocking a building down. Slow process but the buildings are slowly coming down. Admin block and Caretakers house is still on the market so I'm guessing he isn't dropping the price on that one, A mistake considering what he paid on the previous Hospital grounds. Greedy farmer. Nothing else to report, I know that Lake Alice would have been a popular place to visit over the holidays and kept Old Mcdonald on his toes as the young people of Manawatu and Wanganui would have had nothing better to do ;) Nathan, Decembers Blog 12/29/2010
Something different to start off this month, I thought I would talk about keywords used to enter the website, such as via google or bing. These sort of things can be very amusing other times typical. My favourite for 2010 was 'lake alice haunted' quite a few people used that one, still getting our kicks are we people. Others where 'how many people died there' or 'where is lake alice, (hmm I wonder) It's funny what people ask google lol and then there was people who need to learn to spell Alice not Ellis. Over all most people just stuck to the usual 'lake alice'. I am pleased though that the website is seen not just by NZ but by wide variety of other country's. Keep a eye out on the Uncovering the Truth page. Over the next few months I will be contributing to this, documents from a past patient displaying his journey from when he first laid his complaint against Dr Leeks and the Child and Adolescent unit in the late 1970's up until current with the UN report. Every piece tells a honest battle that has been fought and will not be lost, this is a fight not only by one patient but by many, just one who was brave enough back in 1970's to speak out against the abuse at Lake Alice. We will go back to the start and show you where it all began! Speaking of corruption, Grant Camerons law firm (GCALawyers) is back and just in time to suck money out of hard up New Zealanders at Christmas time, who have loved ones who have been in a psychiatric hospital. This time Mr Camerons firm is working at a so called 'significantly reduced charge' to help a family who's son died while in the care of the Canterbury District Health Board. Due to losing a civil case against the DHB they are liable for $11,000 after the case was dismissed. Mr Cameron I think this family haven't got any money, why are you charging them? You should be doing this for free. The government paid you almost 2 million dollars from the Lake Alice compensation and all you had to do was sit on your ass. Something a former female patient said to me recently about Mr Cameron. In a television interview when the compensation was won, she recalls Grant Cameron saying 'he would have done it for nothing'. I'll just leave you all with that as a last thought, Keep in mind the fees had to come out of there compensation, practically half. See Uncovering the Truth for more! Check out the Canterbury news article here. Hope you are all enjoying your holidays, Best wishes for 2011! Nathan, Novembers Blog 11/24/2010
I was going to be doing this months blog on the Abuse case (uncovering the truth) but I'm going to shift that till next month as I've had a progressive month with other priorities. I took a drive past the hospital site last week and it is looking pretty similar to the past few months, slowly becoming a demo site, But for now the shell's of the many buildings still stand. I have many people who ask me that question!! The Admin block and caretakers house is still on the market with a few new images I know it's had minimal interest but of course being on the market this long that would only but make sense. While I don't like to normally draw away from the reason to which this website is for but after the rough 6 months NZ has had with the Christchurch Earthquake and now the Mine disaster I would like to say this, To the families, friends and the town of Greymouth area, those of the miners perished at Pike River Mine New Zealand. On behalf of all those involved in the Lake Alice Website, we wish to extend our heartfelt sympathy to the families and to the close knit community affected by the huge loss of life at the Pike River Mine. The world has been touched by this tragedy, you are all in our hearts and in our prayers. Our sincere condolences to you all. Article here NZ Hearld Stay safe, Nathan, October's Blog 10/06/2010
It seems it has come near a end for the many buildings and Villas. Villas 11 & 13 have been stripped and only now there shell remains, even the floor has been ripped up in parts of some of the buildings. It appears it's going to be a slow process for Old McDonald, but atleast it will feel like home upon completion. The Maximum hasn't been touched yet, but it's in a pretty bad shape on its own from the recent weather and mindless vandals. If your driving past don't forget that you can drive up past the Water Tower to have a nosey as that is all public access road in fact some of the road up to the left which is blocked off is also public access. For photos scroll down to July's entry which has the Villas looking in a similar state as they do this month. Don't forget to take a read of the interview below or a look at some of the old pictures of the Max. Nathan.. September's Blog 'Interview' 09/26/2010
This month we speak to CCHR researcher Victor Boyd on the Lake Alice abuses. He speaks about the ongoing issues effecting the case and gives us a update on the UN report. Q. How and when did you get involved with the Lake Alice abuses? A. I was living and working in Wanganui, my home town, which was a 25 minute car drive from the Hospital. I was 26 years old in 1977 when the first story broke about the 13 year old Niuean boy who’s parents had made a complaint about the ECT he had been receiving. Another young boy of about 18 who was working in the same place I was had been in Lake Alice there about two years previously and he told me a few things that went on that the staff had done to the child patients. I started to ask more questions of other people. Because I wasn’t in it for any money it was surprising who spoke to me and what information I got. Q. The Citizens Commission on Human Rights has been campaigning for a long time about the abuses at the Lake Alice Child and Adolescent Unit, there have been the payouts, what should happen now? A. Firstly, there are people who have said to us who don’t think electric shocking little kids on their body parts as punishment should just be left alone. In 2001 The Royal College of Australia and New Zealand Psychiatrists wanted to see a proper inquiry done into it with findings. Since then some former staff have also spoken out about what happened. Secondly, the Government has told former patients that what happened to them was wrong, but the former staff have not been told what they did was wrong. Unless this happens it signals that the conduct of the staff at Lake Alice was condoned by the Medical and Nursing Council’s, and Psychologist’s Board, which are statutory authorities. A Psychiatrist I spoke with a year ago about Lake Alice thinks that any scrutiny or criticism concerned with the diagnosing of healthy children, labelling them with a with a mental illness and administering painful electric shocks from an ECT machine on their body parts for punishment, is just ridiculing the Psychiatric profession. Yet the Government has just said in the report to the United Nations Committee Against Torture the events like that at Lake Alice were systemic abuse of children. Q. We have a Patients Bill of Rights and a new Mental Health Act, what do you make of the changes? A. Yes. Mainly for adults. But what about a young 9 year old being expected to understand about a full patients rights and complaints protocol? That’s unrealistic. Look at what the Ombudsman investigated just last year; A case where a patient had been kept in constant restraint and seclusion for 6 years. A young intellectually disabled patient kept in ‘seclusion’ for a lengthy period, and a patient, ‘treated for some years without any apparent consent of any kind.’ It’s still going on despite a new mental health act. Just as important to everything else here, it appears that laws have to be passed to bring about safety and protection for patients against abuses by mental health staff. What about the statutory authorities properly investigating allegations with findings and proclaiming necessary changes? And these statutory authorities want to be self regulating organisations. It is appalling. Q. Hasn’t shock treatment on children stopped? A. Like the electric shocks as punishment for behaviour at Lake Alice? It appears so for now, in New Zealand. There are stories overseas where it is coming back; electric shocks for punishment. At Lake Alice after investigating just one case in 1977 to do with a young boy the Ombudsman made a strong suggestion that legislation be enacted to prohibit children receiving ECT unmodified. This has not come about and has been only superficially looked at. Psychiatry wants to have all the ease and credibility of making unscientific diagnosis,’ drugging, shocking, and injecting children, in the back pocket ready for use. Q. Diagnosis and drugging (or medication, as it is nicely referred to?) A. There is another big issue that was at Lake Alice and is still going on today. There were children put in Lake Alice who were perfectly healthy. They may have had behavioural difficulties/issues. (This is also covered in the report on the events at Lake Alice by Sir Rodney Gallen, a retired High Court Judge who interviewed 41 and read the statements of a further 44 former Lake Alice victims.) But you could say that about many people, Some would say Politicians at times have behavioural issues. Does it mean then that they should be given an immediate mental health assessment, diagnosed with a mental illness, treatment, and the information going on a data base? They would probably bring the lawyers in. Children don’t have these defences. Healthy young children were given a diagnosis and then treated. In the Statement of Claim for the first group of fifty six former LA patients in the 2001 civil action, included the claims; “No medical grounds established for admission to or for remaining at Lake Alice Hospital Incorrect or no proper diagnosis. No consent obtained from plaintiff and/or parents or guardians for treatment and/or medication or if obtained, not freely given, or fully informed.”These would be part of the question, ‘How come the kids were there in the first place?’ and form a strong basis of how the abuses came about. Remember in the year 2000 when the Crown Law considered the claims there were medical experts involved. (their fees were $39,934.) And then decided not defend the claims. The Government is in 2010 saying to the United Nations that the claims were clearly and factually established. It’s very important. Children can be labelled for life. What happens later on, when little Johnny says he, ‘has thoughts of harming people, you put me on these drugs.’ Drug companies are now being sued for millions over their product. Q. The payouts from the Government? A. In around 2000, the Government spent $.5 million, including almost $40,000 on the medical experts trying to defend the claims. Several years later, the payouts began. The Government settled out of court with a general apology but without admitting any legal liability. The latest figures for 2010 are that $12.7 million have been paid out to 192 former victims of the abuses. If you’re a former mental health worker this is good. Salaries and wages were paid while abuses were committed against children. The complaints and concerns at the time were largely ignored or brushed off. Then they were bailed out of trouble by the taxpayer with the millions in payouts. A double whammy. If you are a former victim having been on the receiving end of the abuses it isn’t so good. No one was held to account for what happened to them. Q. What about the Australian investigation in 2006 regarding Dr Leeks? A. In 2001 the Royal College of Australia and New Zealand Psychiatrists (RANZCP) issued a media statement calling for a successfully completed investigation into the conduct of the doctor who was in charge, They said, “This is the only way we will ever achieve a satisfactory resolution to this matter; for the former ‘patients’ first and foremost, but also for the doctor concerned and for the profession.” This hasn’t happened. We have recently asked them about this and they are avoiding the issue. The Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria investigated a number of complaints against the doctor from around twenty former patients. After a four year investigation and obtaining an independent opinion from an esteemed professor of Child Psychiatry, in 2006 the Board compiled 40 charges/allegations against the doctor for a Formal Hearing of engaging in infamous conduct in a professional respect. The doctor resigned and the Board has directly violated its stated role of protecting the public by hearing and determining allegations when it accepted the doctor’s resignation without the Hearing taking place. The patients who complained cannot get documents about their complaint to see whether an independent medical opinion, corroborated or refuted their allegations. Q. What is happening about the complaint to the United Nations Committee Against Torture? A. In 2009 the UN Committee Against Torture did it’s Periodic Review of New Zealand’s obligations to the UN. One of the recommendations to the NZ Government involved how cases of historic abuse (ill-treatment/torture) of children in psychiatric hospitals were being handled. The United Nations requested the Government to provide a response within a year, which it did.Committee Recommendation 11. (This has to do with cases of historic abuses in psychiatric hospitals.) (Attention is drawn to sections of the Government’s response/report which are about the Lake Alice abuses.) “New Zealand Response. The Government is committed to the investigation and resolution of allegations of torture or ill-treatment by the state.” “ All affected agencies have commissioned research, as well as looking at individual claims, in order to satisfy themselves that there is no evidence of systemic failure as there was with the Lake Alice Psychiatric hospital claims.” “…The Government was able to reach a view that the claimants’ personal statements and the medical records demonstrated that there had been improper treatment.” “There are two key differences between the current psychiatric hospital claims and the Lake Alice claims which explain the different approach taken by the Government in addressing them. Firstly, the Lake Alice claimants’ allegations were factually clearly established.In the current claims, the factual allegations are generally contested. Second, the Lake Alice claimants’ allegations were substantially the same in that they related to treatment conditions in the child and Adolescent ward at Lake Alice, during the period 1972-1977 under the care of one particular doctor.” (emphasis ours.) The first part of the CCHR submission on this has been sent to the UN. The former patients have been told what happened to them at Lake Alice was wrong. The former staff have not been told what they did was wrong. The Government have made a general apology. There has been redress. There needs to be professional accountability now. In around October 2010 the United Nations then considers the responses it has received from the NZ Government and the NGO’s, (Non Government organisations.) Then we must await their reply. If you would like to speak with Mr Boyd check out our contact page! August's Blog 08/01/2010
This month we have a special photo collection update, we have something you will probably never see anywhere else. 60 years ago this month the people of Marton and areas where welcoming a new industry into the Rangitikei with which it brought new growth to there community. This went well on until 1999, employing just as many locals as out of townees, many who still remain about today. August 1st 1950, 21 patients were admitted that first day. It wasn't until September 6 that another 27 followed. The Maximum Security Villa opened 1965 this would make it 45 years old. These photos mainly of the Maximum, are taken before first in take, before the building was even used. For those who didn't know, before the Maximum was operated for the mentally ill it was utilized as a prison for almost 2 years! With many thanks to David Hyde for the images & the time he took speaking to me I thoroughly enjoyed hearing old stories, he was the CCTV technician until mid 70's. Feel free to leave a comment :] Later in the month the photos will be found on the Maximum page and the Gallery page where I will try to find a modern picture to compare them too. Nathan,.. Julys Blog + photos 07/11/2010
Update for the month with recent photos of the hospital buildings. No news! Although Property Brokers still has the Admin block + land listed on there website. I don't know what Old McDonald's doing with the Villas but he's had the property now for over 19 months so anything's possible, after all he is from a small hick town. It's been rather dead lately but next month is Lake Alice's 60 year anniversary, that's all for now. Nathan, | Lake Alice Blog ArchivesDecember 2011 CategoriesAll |












































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